how do you guys feel about torrent files?

[nikn]

Hey, I noticed a lot of ppl posting rapidshare links and direct download links. Would u guys also download bittorrents or is that too much of a hassle?

[yaokajima]

i would torrent

[imported_Kikkoman]

This should go in the "General and Discussion" board.

[imported_Hobo]

I moved this to Questions and Suggestions, and for now, we are not using torrent files.

[Supersonic]

I moved this to Questions and Suggestions, and for now, we are not using torrent files.

Eh? I can see the rationale for not encouraging them, but I fail to see the rationale for banning them entirely.

Care to elaborate a little?

[Trojan]

Eh? I can see the rationale for not encouraging them, but I fail to see the rationale for banning them entirely.

Care to elaborate a little?
We'd need a private torrent site, otherwise it wouldn't add anything to this site.

[solecistic]

Later, we will have our own private FCS tracker. But not any time soon. :P

[TheRiddler]

I all ready download from various torrent sites.
I like torrents cause you can stop the download and continue the download later without any problems.

Most stuff what I will upload are files I downloaded from torrent sites.
I private tracker in the future would be very cool, aslong people keep seeding :p

[Mortal Kombat]

The problem with Torrents is the low download speeds. It might just be me but in order to reach 50kb/s or more on a perticular torrent there needs to be 500+ hosts, which is not going to happen while FcS is small.

[imported_Hobo]

The problem with Torrents is the low download speeds. It might just be me but in order to reach 50kb/s or more on a perticular torrent there needs to be 500+ hosts, which is not going to happen while FcS is small.

It really depends on how much the seeders and leechers are letting you download, and how much the leechers are grabbing, I regularly get over 800KB/s on less then 20 seeders.

[Mortal Kombat]

It really depends on how much the seeders and leechers are letting you download, and how much the leechers are grabbing, I regularly get over 800KB/s on less then 20 seeders.

Well it might just be me but I get really slow download speeds. I have a 2mb/s connection and the fastest I have ever gotten was 200kb/s on a South Park file, on average I get a speed of about 20-30kb/s or 50kb/s if I am lucky, and thats on files with 300-3000 seeders. I heard that port forwarding makes it faster, but my dad wont let me into the router so i can't do that.

[DMoogle]

Well it might just be me but I get really slow download speeds. I have a 2mb/s connection and the fastest I have ever gotten was 200kb/s on a South Park file, on average I get a speed of about 20-30kb/s or 50kb/s if I am lucky, and thats on files with 300-3000 seeders. I heard that port forwarding makes it faster, but my dad wont let me into the router so i can't do that.

Port forwarding is the exact reason you're getting crappy speeds.

[Supersonic]

We'd need a private torrent site, otherwise it wouldn't add anything to this site.

Just like people posting galleries they find on imagefap add nothing to this site? I mean, nothing is hosted on FCS anyways, so why should it matter if I link to a torrent I seed or a gallery I upload to a shitty free host?

[Cherry31]

Just like people posting galleries they find on imagefap add nothing to this site? I mean, nothing is hosted on FCS anyways, so why should it matter if I link to a torrent I seed or a gallery I upload to a shitty free host?

Torrents will only last as long as members keep seeding them which means in a short time they will be unavailable. At least rapidshare and other upload sites are semi reliable and the files are kept up for a reasonable amount of time.

[dudie62052]

To keep them seeded longer you could require screenshots of upload amounts for each file and you could maybe award a proportional amount of fuckbucks:uploaded amount.

[imported_Hobo]

To keep them seeded longer you could require screenshots of upload amounts for each file and you could maybe award a proportional amount of fuckbucks:uploaded amount.

Wouldnt need such a cumbersome system, most new trackers will track a users U/D ration.

[dudie62052]

Oh, I didn't that. Also, what kind of internet connection do you have and what torrent program do you use?

[imported_Hobo]

Oh, I didn't that. Also, what kind of internet connection do you have and what torrent program do you use?

Personally I like utorrent, it is simple and quick, and it has some nice features that are a little hidden.

I use comcast 8 mb/s cable internet.

[postvoteabuseman]

Personally I like utorrent, it is simple and quick, and it has some nice features that are a little hidden.

I use comcast 8 mb/s cable internet.

buddy learn to get comcast 10 mb/s

[Supersonic]

Wouldnt need such a cumbersome system, most new trackers will track a users U/D ration.

My Oyabun at E-H.org says that the client determines its own ratio, then reports it to the tracker. That's why he bases it on time spent seeding the torrent rather than upload speed and download speed. A malicious client could easily gain access to LARGE sums of credits very quickly.

Boss is so smart!

[imported_Hobo]

My Oyabun at E-H.org says that the client determines its own ratio, then reports it to the tracker. That's why he bases it on time spent seeding the torrent rather than upload speed and download speed. A malicious client could easily gain access to LARGE sums of credits very quickly.

Boss is so smart!

There must be a fix for this, or it would be widely exploited across all the torrent sites, I will look into it more, but I know that at the lowest level seeds/peers work on a tit for tat system, so that the ones who upload at the fastest speed get the fastest download, of course that person could just leave after the torrent finishes.

[Supersonic]

There must be a fix for this, or it would be widely exploited across all the torrent sites, I will look into it more, but I know that at the lowest level seeds/peers work on a tit for tat system, so that the ones who upload at the fastest speed get the fastest download, of course that person could just leave after the torrent finishes.

Yes, the clients determine amongst themselves who's most deserving of their bandwidth. Good clients will give to good leechers first. Bad clients give either to a.) everyone equally or b.) only good leechers (leaving possible thoroughput unused)...

As a tracker admin, and a libertarian, I prefer to let clients work out their problems amongst themselves, but...if you want to reward participation, or punish non-participation, there's a few good ways and a few bad ways to do that.

If you do use ratio enforcement, please use a custom build that assumes no one can upload more than say, 10mbit/sec. The goal isn't to prevent all fraud...just to prevent the fraud that causes serious disruption.

For example, someone could cheat our system by loading the /announce URL on a cronjob. But the most they'd gain by that is the fixed rate of 5C/hr. or whatever it is now. Which isn't enough by any means to destabalize the economy.

But on a system with potentially unlimited rewards...someone could falsify an upload rate of 1tbit (or more!) and do serious damage before he is detected.

edit: Proposals have been made to use a trust network to report other clients behavior rather than your own...but doing so would require major additions to the BitTorrent protocol.

[DaiTengu]

Later, we will have our own private FCS tracker. But not any time soon. :P

IM me sometime, we can discuss this further.